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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Mar 10, 2009 14:05:06 GMT -3
Okay, it might just be because he was fully naked for most of the movie, but fictional character Dr. Manhattan from The Watchmen has got my hormones all in a tizzy ever since I saw the film. He's muscular, all powerful (he can explode you body in an instant), and yet there's a lot of sensitivity there. I especially like his eyes. He's slowly moving away from humanity, but he tries his best to deal with his ever more confusing companions. I think he's pretty, blue skin and all. But let's be real here. NAKED. ;D I seriously doubt he will be an everlasting love of mine, but the sheer novelty of having full frontal male nudity (on a hot guy) in a non-pornographic film was enough to get my attention for a little bit. Yes, I'm a pervert. I can't help myself! XP Oh, and I don't know what Silk Spectre's problem was, I would never get mad at him for this scene: Hee hee...
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Post by Big Stoopid on Mar 10, 2009 21:05:41 GMT -3
Having seen this unique and layered flick last Saturday, I was try'na figure out how I felt about this.
It has always bugged me that every variation of female nudity is no big deal . . . to be expected & inspected, yet great efforts are jokingly ( or seriously ) made to hide that schlong !
Granted, we are hard-wired mammals and the female is "the attractor" of our particular species. Plus the fact that, until the last generation or two, men were in charge of most artistic creation . . . or the sanctioning of what got out there for public view. ( or pubic view )
But even with my views having always been beyond feminist and into "why is this even an issue anymore ?", I still was thrown by Dr. Manhattan spending most of his time au naturale . Is it an "evolved being beyond shame or need of clothes" kind'a deal ?
It seems like a character decision meant for some reason, and I think a lot of folks are gonna' latch onto it ( ow ! ) and it ends up being a focus of distraction. It'll put some people off, and turn some others on ! I guess I'm torn between "why not ?", and "why ?"
Hmm . . . .
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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Mar 10, 2009 22:34:47 GMT -3
But even with my views having always been beyond feminist and into "why is this even an issue anymore ?", I still was thrown by Dr. Manhattan spending most of his time au naturale . Is it an "evolved being beyond shame or need of clothes" kind'a deal ? You're exactly right with the evolving beyond clothes thing Big. You noticed I'm sure that his friends didn't seem phased by it at all. Manhattan has become so omnipotent, he practically knows how the whole universe works. And when you know all the secrets of the universe, clothes seem kinda silly don't they? I mean for the purposes of warmth they're good (though he didn't even need them on Antarctica!), but as a means to hide our "shameful" human form? It's just kinda stupid when you can see atoms form on the sun and crap. It seems like a character decision meant for some reason, and I think a lot of folks are gonna' latch onto it ( ow ! ) and it ends up being a focus of distraction. It'll put some people off, and turn some others on ! I guess I'm torn between "why not ?", and "why ?" Hmm . . . . So yeah, it wasn't really meant to be gratuitous, but at the same time, I think it helped release some of the tension in the audience. It was so funny, because in my jam-packed theater, you could literally hear the audience try to be mature about it. A few people would softly chuckle at times when he was just standing there, but when he started walking around, people couldn't hold it in. Every person in that room was a grown-up, but the simple fact that people never see male genitalia in a non-sexual situation like that turned us all into 12-year olds, as if we were seeing this stuff for the first time. It's right there in your face on a giant screen, you can't really look away, and you're not used to seeing it in this context, so you gotta deal with it somehow. I laughed at it as much as I was glad to have something for us ladies. And I don't recall hearing anyone after the movie say, "Man, I wish there hadn't been so much penis in the movie!" It was shocking and a bit distracting, but overall I think it was weirdly refreshing for everyone, and it made the movie extra fun. ;D P.S. Apparently Photobucket doesn't like comic book butt, so my second picture up there was taken down. So silly. Anyway, it was referring to the scene where Doc makes four of himself during sex with the Silk Spectre. P.S.S. Um, apparently "p e n i s" gets turned into "naughty bits" here. Isn't that a little silly, considering it's the proper technical term?? ;D [glow=red,2,300](Fixed! ~Staff)[/glow]
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Post by Big Stoopid on Mar 10, 2009 22:49:32 GMT -3
P.S.S. Um, apparently "p e n i s" gets turned into "naughty bits" here. Isn't that a little silly, considering it's the proper technical term?? ;D I hadn't noticed that ! I hereby welcome all offering some penis on this board !! There. . . . now isn't that weirdly refreshing ?
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Post by Big Stoopid on Mar 10, 2009 22:50:52 GMT -3
Oh ! . . and btw,
I love your description of the mix of audience reactions ! DeMSTification is always a gradual process
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Post by Katana on Mar 10, 2009 22:56:15 GMT -3
Which reminds me of what my firend said about it.
"You know that the guy who had to animate Manhattan's junk was just cussing it out the whole time. "God dammit, why didn't Pixar hire me. UGGGGH. Now I have to spend four hours a day in a room wasting my skills making sure this guy's penis moves properly when he walks. GOD DAMMIT PIXAR WHY DIDN'T YOU HIRE ME." You just know it."
(I'm really tempted to be immature right now, but alas, no, I won't be. =D)
Edit: Also Queenie, congrats on the changed status. ...I think.
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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Mar 10, 2009 23:10:55 GMT -3
Which reminds me of what my firend said about it. Also Queenie, congrats on the changed status. ...I think. Oh ptthhhhffffttttthahahahaha! I didn't even notice that! I love it. Didn't Trace say that they got sent a box of toenails once at MST? Maybe it was me and I just forgot! ;D
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Post by Creepy Girl on Mar 10, 2009 23:57:54 GMT -3
I've yet to see the film, but I did overhear a conversation between two guys in my Economics class and I kept hearing them say "giant blue d***". I knew about Dr. Manhattan, but I thought they were referring to his behavior/demeanor, rather than the actual body part. I'm a dork. :D
It is interesting to see your discussion concerning how people reacted to the male nudity, when we're so jaded when it comes viewing the female body in movies and on television. Very interesting social comment.
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Post by Robyn on Mar 11, 2009 15:38:27 GMT -3
Doc Manhattan can kiss my ass. He's got a sweet bod but I can't love him because he made Rorshach cry manly tears of JUSTICE and then blew him up.* RORSHAAAAAAACH ;_; Which reminds me, Queenie, I owe you an apology for mocking your fangirling of Edward Cullen - despite my best efforts, I've fallen head over heals for Rorshach. Yes, the short, smelly, dog-killing, bigoted murderous psychopath has stolen my heart, wtf. I think it was the Totally Awkward/Adorable Handshake of Friendship Scene with Nite Owl, I mean come onnnnn. Anyway, the real reason I'm posting - Yes, they're real. There's nothing I could say that could make this any more hilarious. *Also the whole letting Ozzy get away with killing a ton of people in order to make a false Utopia where everyone plays nice with each other because they're afraid that the big blue boogie man (or giant alien squid if you go by the comic) is going to strike again at any moment doesn't sit well with me morally. Oh yeah, THAT'S the world I want to live in. Look, if you're gonna force peace on people, at least be honest about it - "Everyone stop fighting or I will be forced to "save" you by killing you." /rant
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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Mar 11, 2009 18:47:56 GMT -3
LOL, those condoms are hilarious Robyn! And let me tell you, you are NOT alone in your love of Rorshach. That pathological little f*cker was AMAZING. The fact that he was also a short little ginger was just too freaking perfect. I think I officially fell for him after he threw the hot fry grease on that other prisoner's face. *sigh* His psychosis sends my heart aflutter... But yeah, he does make the stalky, watch you while you sleep vampire seem like the model boyfriend doesn't he? Oh and yes, the "solution" to world peace was beyond messed up. But this whole movie was about totally mind f*cked people (Comedian anyone?*) in a totally mind f*cked world (Nixon elected five times), so I'm not surprised. It's such a shame though, because Adrian (with his completely random blue tiger) was pretty hot too. Unfortunately, wiping NYC off the map is kind of a deal breaker. But if it makes you feel better, the secret didn't die with Rorshach since his journal will totally get published. Oh by the way, this was posted on the Forrestcrow board - didja see it? XD *Seriously, the hatred I have for The Comedian knows no bounds. I want to kill him SO HARD. But I couldn't touch him, because he'd beat the sh*t outta me, rape me, convince me later to consensually sleep with him, knock me up, and then shoot me while I'm pregnant. DIE MOTHERF*CKER DIE!!! /rant
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Post by missblacktop on Mar 11, 2009 19:09:06 GMT -3
I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE Saturday Morning Watchmen. So awesome. And, hello, aren't we forgetting who the real cutie in this film is? DAN DREIBERG. Ohhh...*swoons* Seriously, any scene with him in it warranted bouncing up and down in my seat. My boyfriend...did not appreciate it =P
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Post by Big Stoopid on Mar 12, 2009 0:12:29 GMT -3
Jeez !, is that Sat Morning Watchmen for real ?!? ( it seems like it could've been a modern retro-spoof )
Also, did any of you viewers of the movie know why there was a snatch of The Outer Limits towards the end ? The film's ending was one of the few things changed in the oh-so-faithful film. I hadn't read the original graphic novel, but the end isn't about Dr. Manhattan being a threat that unites the warring countries . . . twas an alien threat ( involving a giant squid !? ). That's virtually the plot of one of the finest episodes of Outer Limits > "The Architects of Fear" . . . which the writers realized late in the game, hence the nod. I'm not sure tho' if that's the original writers as well.
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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Mar 12, 2009 0:41:08 GMT -3
I'm sorry to say Saturday Morning Watchmen is 100% fake. It's a shame, because I would totally watch that show. They had me at "Rorschach is a friend to all the animals" and he's petting the two German Shepherds that he totally mutilated in the movie! XD
And thanks for enlightening me on the Outer Limits reference. I'm familiar with the show, but I'd never seen that episode and I didn't know about the squid ending until after I saw the film.
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Post by Big Stoopid on Mar 12, 2009 20:45:14 GMT -3
I only read up on Watchmen's plot n' such after reading Entertainment Weekly's cover story in the week or two before the film opened. Between them & other sources like Wiki ( and actual peoples ! ) I gleaned the whole "unite the world with a common threat" premise, and I'm not 100% on the squid being exactly that, but I know it's involved and is one of the very few things left out of the movie.
"The Architects of Fear", from The Outer Limits 1st season in 1963, was the 3rd episode . . and the one where the style and depth within sci-fi TV really started to gel.
The Outer Limits is also very much a part of the 60's forming . . . part of the early wave of some enlightening revelation being uncovered, some search for human truths society had been essentially repressing.
yada / blahda . . .
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Post by Robyn on Mar 13, 2009 7:26:17 GMT -3
Yeah, it's a shame that the alien squid didn't make it in, it would've been pretty awesome to see that on the big screen. But I think both endings suck because Rorshach's still dead work in their own way. Dan was pretty cute, even if he has the most Inappropriate Music Of Any Sex Scene In The History of Cinema. "Bow chicka bow wow" would've been less awkward. I still can't decide if that scene was lame or awesome. But I loved how Dan was kinda like the Adam West/Micheal Keaton Batman, with all his cute little owl-themed gadgets. I about died when I saw his winter outfit. SO CUTE. Anyway, a couple fun Watchmen-related things - first, the Bum Review of Watchmen! This is quite possibly the coolest thing in the history of cool things: This is kinda stupid but it made me laugh - (WARNING: BAD WORDS!) Also definitely check out Six Minutes to Midnight, a sort of interactive trailer. Just take a look, it's awesome. And finally, something silly I made:
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