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Post by Big Stoopid on Oct 13, 2008 0:30:34 GMT -3
Firstly, deep kudos to Queeny, who knew I wouldn't have been tuned into ForrestCrow and heard about the DAP upload of Joel's showing of IT !She spent the last 30 some hours directing me as to how to get it from DAP, and when that turned into a convoluted series of sign-ins & brick-walls, figured out how to send it to me . . and did too !! Man, I wept as it began. The first true MST . . first theater entry . . 1st riff . . first "Number 2 position" !!  Having the emails of many of you...wait, I get to see them all from my mighty Admin viewpoint . . . so I'll gladly send a link to a downloadable folder ! ( with IT ! ) Is it hysterical ? . . . well, it's sure historical. And I wanna know if anyone can make out some of the "new riffs" Frank or Josh add in. any reactions ready to burst from you already ? |
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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Oct 13, 2008 0:36:28 GMT -3
Isn't it soooo great? I was surprised by the quality of the host segments. They were really well done, and I love how animated and adorable Gypsy/Gypsum was. As for the Frank and Josh riffs, I was able to make them out, but I can't remember them now. I'll have to go back and check. Anyway, I'm glad you finally got to see it! ;D
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Post by Big Stoopid on Oct 13, 2008 1:34:31 GMT -3
Yes ! Jot down a transcript !!! Gypsum indeed had some good moments, like when "He" "put his head back" and such. Rather animated, even at that rudimentary stage. Meanwhile, I am flabberstounded that I found next to no discussion over at the CT Forum. And a Googlement of "Green Slime" didn't point to any at F-Crow, where I could peek on thru viewing caches of the pages ( cuz I can ya' know ! ) Are we the only hip & Cutting-edge MSTys ?! ( as I always thought anyway )  |
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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Oct 13, 2008 10:21:22 GMT -3
Yeah there hasn't really been an explosion of any sorts. Heck, even Satellite News didn't mention it, even though Tarantulas, the guy who filmed it, posted a link to the DAP in the comments of the Archon thread.
There is a thread about it over at the Rifftax forum, but other than that, I think a lot of people don't know it's there.
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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Oct 13, 2008 12:30:13 GMT -3
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Oct 13, 2008 14:01:22 GMT -3
I was able to get it through DAP. I was honestly surprised at how simple it was - I've never used torrents before, but it was literally five minutes from downloading the software package to having the entire video file ready to go. It took about 3 clicks of the mouse. Granted, I didn't know what I was doing, and just happened to guess the right thing to do, but it turned out far easier than I expected.
Honestly, I figured if KTMA00 was ever available, it would be like the Second Coming or something. So far, there's been one thread about it and limited discussion at the forrestcrow site. To be honest, far more discussion has gone on about the guy who posted the episode acting like a major ass than about the pilot. Of the handful of thread pages, probably 1/3 are people wondering about torrents, 1/3 are people yelling at one another, and 1/3 at most are people talking about the episode.
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Post by Big Stoopid on Oct 13, 2008 18:36:51 GMT -3
Thanks guys !
. . . for the "survey of reactions". Of course the only place I can't freely stroll thru is F-Crow, and I did indeed see how few "fireworks" were going off at the CT Forum . . but I can't even find the thread I talked about on now ! It's as perplexing as how little discussion CT had on the big reunion panel !!! I just wandered away in disgust at that point.
I love Capt. Hy's breakdown of 1/3 this, 1/3 that, 1/3 arguing. I can just see the pie-chart !
Ya' know . . . we is the coolest MSTys . . . . . true story !
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Post by Robyn on Oct 14, 2008 18:08:30 GMT -3
I hate to contribute to the non-discussion of the actual pilot, but NEEEEEERRRD FIIIIIIIIIGHT!! (this is where it really gets going, but be sure to read the previous pages) It's quite possible that I'm biased against the guy because I'm one of those morons who couldn't figure out the technobable needed to download the pilot, but he's still an ass. And when you're the biggest ass on the RiffTrax forums, that's a real accomplishment.  Now I'm going to go enjoy the pilot on Google Videos. HA! |
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Oct 14, 2008 20:17:06 GMT -3
It's a shame how the one person to give us the practically mythical pilot turned out to have the worst internet attitude I've seen on the discussion board in a long time. Why am I not surprised that it's worse on the rifftrax board? Or maybe it's actually Joel in disguise?  |
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Post by Big Stoopid on Oct 14, 2008 23:39:52 GMT -3
In response to my wishing RAD & Mary Jo a "Happy Imminent Anniversary" ( it's true too !), he asked what I'd thought of Green Slime. ( the pilot . . not in general )
Here's what I sent back to him.
I seem to make some good points and hoped to see some reactions n' such `round here.
( or we could just have a nerd-battle )
Firstly, it's already a thrill that Joel & the whole CT bunch are there as it unveils ! Joel's intro is also invaluable .
As it started up and I realized I'm truly seeing the first of MST filmed, I wept with a warm chill that went thru me. ( The fact that it was the same day I was downloading "Legacy of Blood" . . the very newest from Joel & co. was too amazing ! . . . . talk about yer' bookends !! )
I fully expected it to be far more historical then hysterical, but bits from the host-segments & theater alike immediately joined the infinite list of "great moments in riffary". ( like "speaking of the number two position" as he excused himself )
I certainly noted that the "coming & going" from the theater was much as Joel had described his earliest visions of the "format".
I loved how Frank n' Josh fit in some new riffy comments, but sadly, the only one I could really make out thru the hall's acoustics was right at the beginning. Something like "should we riff this ?" Brilliantly obvious, and just plain brilliant !
I am half-certain that Joel's showing this because it's also an extra on the 20th Anniversary set, but who knows ?. . . . . hey wait . . . . you do !!
I was a bit dismayed as the counter got under a minute to go and it became clear that a lot of post Slime discussion would not be there in the video. There's was so much for them to talk about !
Also, it would seem, when the lights were still up, that Joel & Co, would've easily seen the camera. Do you know if they did but didn't object ?
And lastly, for now . . . . it is perplexing and saddening how little fan-chat has occurred in the wake of this. People at Rifftrax are mostly arguing like nerds over tech points. The CT Forum had one little oblique mention that I added to, but typically can't even find now.
( I haven't been on the CT Forum since the Big Reunion Panel seemed to generate no discussion . . I walked away kind'a disgusted. I must admit )
And Googling "The Green Slime Joel" brings up no ForrestCrow results that I could peek at in Cache form.
It's becoming my theory that MSTy's have had nearly 10 years to love an "inert product". A show that's finished and unchanging . . that they can examine at leisure and have a sense of it's size, etc.
I think all the "new growth" this year, in so many ways, has spooked a lot of fans who had it all preserved in their "scrapbooks" with lists of completes & "love / hates" and all.
Their pinned butterfly is suddenly alive again and flapping it's wings !
( but I mix my metaphors )
I don't know if I'm onto something or simply on something ! Maybe it's a theory in development as it all happens.
Whatta' you think ?
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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Oct 15, 2008 0:42:29 GMT -3
Well I can answer the video camera bit at least for you Big. Apparently Tarantulas got permission from Joel to film and distribute (presumably because Joel can't do it on his own legally), so that's why it was so out in the open.
But really, I attribute the lack of discussion because everyone was so overwhelmed by the poster's atrocious social skills. Like, before anyone really could discuss it he immediately started being nasty the moment anyone reported any problems. The venom he's been throwing is awful, and the Rifftrax board thread is even worse than what happened on Forrestcrow. This guy could have seriously been seen as a freaking hero among MSTies, but instead he chose to belittle and insult the fans. Way to alienate yourself, dude. So yeah, I really think what he's been doing killed any good feeling surrounding it. It's such a shame.
I sorta agree with you about fans cherishing an "inert" show though. But then again, I'm not so sure. I think the technology obstacle is alienating some of the fans who would otherwise get excited. Why get hyped up about something you don't think you're ever going to see?
And I dunno, maybe out of the missing KTMA's, The Green Slime was on the bottom of the "must have" list? Maybe people would pee their pants more over a full episode rather than just the concept video. I dunno. All this negativity has left a bad taste in my mouth.
Joel may have given permission for it to be distributed, but I can't imagine he would condone the venom being spewed towards his fans.
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Post by Robyn on Oct 15, 2008 1:23:11 GMT -3
Why am I not surprised that it's worse on the rifftrax board? Seriously. For all the ribbing I give forrestcrow, it really is the best, most organized, cool-headed message board for MSTies out there (usually). Heck, even the guys who trolled the original Fangirl Fever thread had a genteelness to them (except for that Hygiene guy, MAN what an ass!) Or maybe it's actually Joel in disguise? And in a shocking twist, it turns out Greg McDuck is Mike! ;D I just can't believe the hypocrisy of Taranturus. He has a problem with people selling illegal MST3K footage, he believes it should be free. Okay, fine, I can agree with that. Yet when someone takes the pilot and puts it up on YouTube or Google (with full credit to DAP, and FOR FREE), he gets all pissy. No, only HE can distribute the footage to the unwashed masses. I mean, let's say when Samtaco posted about the Geek Monthly pictures in forrestcrow, what if, instead of posting a link to the Fangirl Fever thread, he had simply copied the pictures and posted them there? If I had gone in there screaming "You take those pages down right now, I was the one who scanned them and uploaded them to Photobucket, so it's my God given right to post them anywhere!" you'd all tell me to STFU and DIAF, right? Maybe I'm oversimplifying - after all, Tarantarus got permission from Joel to take the footage, I didn't get permission from Geek Monthly to post the scans. But it just seems to me if Joel is totally okay with the pilot being distributed on the internet, then WHO CARES WHO PUTS WHAT ON YOUTUBE!? (And if Joel specifically said that the pilot should ONLY be distributed through DAP, I'm sorry, he's being really freaking naive, 'cause last time I checked this was the INTERNET.) Okay, okay, that's my rant. I'll say no more about it and try to think happy thoughts. You guys have no idea how often I have to bite my tongue (or fingers, rather) when I get pissed sometimes - if I posted half the things I really think, I'd be banned from soooo many places (except here, hopefully, LOL). Now about the actual pilot, which I was able to download from Google (again, HA!) - very cool. I thought the host segments were cute, and I still think it's amusing how much Joel looks like the space hippie from Silent Running - I mean, I know that was his intent, but he really went all out! (He's much nicer than the guy from Silent Running though - I don't know, I saw it recently and couldn't get over how dang unlikable the guy was. OKAY, we GET IT, you love nature, maybe humanity would listen to you and be more eco-minded if you weren't such an anti-social jerk. ) I have to admit I was glad to have the luxury of being able to skip ahead - Joel, I love you, but stop rambling and SHOW THE THING ALREADY! XD |
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Post by Big Stoopid on Oct 15, 2008 4:19:27 GMT -3
Well I can answer the video camera bit at least for you Big. Apparently Tarantulas got permission from Joel to film and distribute (presumably because Joel can't do it on his own legally), so that's why it was so out in the open. But really, I attribute the lack of discussion because everyone was so overwhelmed by the poster's atrocious social skills. I'd imagine Tarantulas managed to put on a certain charm for Joel, and if Joel's checking the reactions, he is now mortified at who his emissary in this matter is ! And I can certainly understand getting a little full of oneself, being the hero who scored one of the "episodes" we all thought would never be seen ( or was long ago lost ), but let people shower you and crown you buddy ! Tooting your own porn is unseemly ! I have to admit I was glad to have the luxury of being able to skip ahead - Joel, I love you, but stop rambling and SHOW THE THING ALREADY! XD Heh-heh, that was as rambly as I ever heard him. But we all have "off-nights", and maybe knowing the "looseness" and "proto-form" of what he was about to show kind'a reminded him too clearly of the embarrassment potential. "Ok MSTys, you wanted this ?...*gulp*" you know ! |
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Oct 15, 2008 15:16:22 GMT -3
Heck, even the guys who trolled the original Fangirl Fever thread had a genteelness to them (except for that Hygiene guy, MAN what an ass!)  |
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Post by crowfan on Oct 15, 2008 15:53:07 GMT -3
Stupid, sexy Flanders.
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Post by Melati on Nov 25, 2008 12:53:38 GMT -3
Check it out. The Green Slime has a stupid theme song! (the music is quite good, but the lyrics are really bad)
"Open the door, you’ve got a secret.
To find the answer is to keep it.
You’ll believe it when you find,
Something screaming ‘cross your miiind…
Green Sliiiiiime!
"What can it be, what is the reason?
Is this the end of all that’s breathin’?
Is this something in your head?
Will you believe it when you’re dead?
Green Sliiiime! Green Sliiiime! Green Sliiiime!"
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Post by Creepy Girl on Nov 25, 2008 18:29:28 GMT -3
Geez, I wasn't aware of the animosity that existed between some of the boards. O__o;;
I'm also surprised at the lack of buzz surrounding the news that we were finally going to see where it all began. Those first opening moments of history almost brought a tear to my eye, they did. >_>;;
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Post by Big Stoopid on Nov 25, 2008 18:48:41 GMT -3
Geez, I wasn't aware of the animosity that existed between some of the boards. O__o;; Can't help but wonder what you're citing here, my dear I'm also surprised at the lack of buzz surrounding the news that we were finally going to see where it all began. Those first opening moments of history almost brought a tear to my eye, they did. >_>;; I felt exactly the same way ! Except the tears came warmly & freely ;D Also, the "lack of buzz" seemed equally applied to The Reunion Panel. So little chat about how wonderful it was to see moments of, say, Mike looking warmly at Frank. . . . . Joel reacting to Kevin . . . ad infinitum ! ( even Bridget gazing up at Crow and noting he wasn't speaking ) Dozens of moments that went deep to the heart of MSTery ! |
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Post by Creepy Girl on Nov 25, 2008 23:28:42 GMT -3
Geez, I wasn't aware of the animosity that existed between some of the boards. O__o;; Can't help but wonder what you're citing here, my dear Oops, sorry. That was in reference to the link Robyn posted ----> [X]This is the Green Slime thread in the Rifftrax board and it quickly turns into a flame war, with a few verbal shots taken at the members of the FC board from some of the Rifftrax members. |
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Post by Big Stoopid on Nov 25, 2008 23:55:15 GMT -3
Can't help but wonder what you're citing here, my dear Oops, sorry. That was in reference to the link Robyn posted ----> [X]This is the Green Slime thread in the Rifftrax board and it quickly turns into a flame war, with a few verbal shots taken at the members of the FC board from some of the Rifftrax members. No "Oops, sorry" required ! I pretty much figured that was what you were referring to . . that ugly display of uptightery ! But if you'd heard any of the nonsense I went through at ForrestCrow, you'd know why I also wondered if those folks were reacting to Robyn's thread and having a new dump on me !  It seemed another possibility as to what you meant. |
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