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Post by Big Stoopid on Jun 7, 2008 15:06:44 GMT -3
The previously titled "Wars & Treks : of Stars !" was just updated to be Star Trek only.
As I first composed that post / poll , I was under the impression that Proboard updates enabled us to have multiple polls within one thread . . . but No-o-o-o-o !
So now we'll have separate threads fer' goodness sakes !
What was that joke from the Futurama episode that had most of TOS cast ?
"That was The Star Trek Wars. No, you're thinking of The Star Wars Trek"
Well, we can't mix `em so freely . . . and we probably shouldn't !
We'll begin w/ "Reply #1" :
The Poll above allows you to choose any or all, so mark them for inclusion if you believe them to be a "worthy" part of the arc !
Then go nuts and discuss :
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Post by Big Stoopid on Jun 7, 2008 15:25:55 GMT -3
I myself choose all but The Holiday Special.
Episodes 1 thru 3 may have momentary weaknesses, but I totally don't get all dismissive "hatred" they've garnered.
They're all supposed to be a modern version of cheesy Flash Gordon type dialog and action !
I love `em !
( My brother's here for a visit, so dash I must ! )
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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Jun 7, 2008 18:12:08 GMT -3
I voted for all except the Holiday Special and Attack of the Clones. Holiday Special certainly isn't canon, and it's two hours of watching Chewie's family speaking Wookese. Awful.
Now, we all know the prequels aren't as good as the originals, but I can't deny that in my youth I thought Phantom Menace was the greatest thing I had ever seen. There was finally a big screen Star Wars for my generation. I saw it six times in the theater. I thought from a visual standpoint (the costumes, sets, cities) were extremely beautiful. So as lame as it is now, it's still an important part of my youth.
Revenge of the Sith could have been a lot better, but really I can't complain much. This was the movie we sat through two prequels to get to. I remember even getting a little teary eyed right at the end when Owen and Beru have baby Luke and look at the twin suns in the distance. That little homage to the originals was nice. So yeah, Darth Vader and the fact that the film was the bridge to the better films makes it okay in my book!
I cannot say the same good of the middle child, Attack of the Clones. I literally have only been able to sit through it once, and that was in the theater! George Lucas is sh*t when it comes to writing love stories (well any dialogue really) but that lame love story between Padme and Whiney made me want to rip my own face off at times. I literally cannot tell you anything about the plot, because Lucas made it a point to throw so many special effects at my already befuddled brain that I couldn't think anymore. I was just watching, not processing. I remember walking out of the theater thinking, "What the hell did I just watch? What was it about?" I have it on DVD but I have never watched it. I have nothing good to say about that piece of crap.
And the originals, are of course sacred cows. Especially Empire and Jedi...probably cause Lucas didn't direct them! ;D But really, a Star Wars movie without Luke Skywalker and Han Solo is hardly a Star Wars movie at all!
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Post by Big Stoopid on Jun 8, 2008 0:06:20 GMT -3
I knew you weigh right in ! ( I'd seen you detail your "span of feelings" on Phantom elsewhere, but this was possibly even better ) May I coweringly suggest you peel the wrap off your Clones ? ( hmmm, many meanings much ? ) I think it's great, and have viewed it many times. Sometimes I skip the Anakin / Padme developments, but that's only when I'm more "action keyed" I like the way he handles it ( hmmm, many meanings much ? ) And by "he" I'm meaning Lucas. Lines like "I'd be too scared to tease a senator" . . . hell, it all works for me. But then I don't want it to be any other movie. And the final hour ??. . c'mon !!And just to rile your goat : you saw it once, in the theater . . . and paint a very evocative picture of how you didn't process it ?? Let's hear from someone who knows the film ! ( that'll get her )  |
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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Jun 8, 2008 5:02:38 GMT -3
I go with my gut on things like these. All I know is that if I dislike a movie the first time, chances are high that I'll dislike it a second time. Have I been proven wrong before? Of course. I hated the Blues Brothers when I first saw it. I didn't get was supposed to be so funny. Second viewing, it was like a light switch flipped on in my head, and now it's one of my favorite films.
But Star Wars is, well...Star Wars. I'm a massive Star Wars fan, so I'm coming into the film hyped up and ready to go. As such, it takes little to please me. I can overlook a lot. However, due to my already excited attitude coming into it, the movie must be awesome upon the first viewing. If it fails to do that, it doesn't get another chance. Star Wars shouldn't need multiple viewings to realize that it's actually good.
/my two cents ;D
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Jun 9, 2008 20:26:54 GMT -3
As much as I dislike 95% of Ep. I and 70% of Ep. II, I must admit that they are a true part of the story, whether or not I like them.
And I will defend my view that Episodes III, IV, and V are the "good" ones. Return of the Jedi has some of the best moments, but overall it starts to have a lot of the same problems as Eps. I & II. I maintain that Episode III is significantly better than that. *crosses arms and glowers at imaginary antagonistic readers*
Edit:
Also, one of the things I find amusing is how the critical view of Ep I has changed. I remember when it came out, all the reviewers were giving it 3 1/2 or 4 out of 4 stars and saying how awesome it was that Lucas could make such a great succesor to the original trilogy. Ebert originally gave it a great review, for crying out loud (I'm assuming he's changed that, but I haven't looked). Somewhere over the next couple years, that turned around into critical derision. Whoops.
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Post by Big Stoopid on Jul 19, 2008 20:44:40 GMT -3
Earlier in this thread, I do believe, Capt.Hy cited how the 3 prequels were indeed better received upon their release and have since slipped into a general consensus of . . . . oh . . .lesser estimations ? This happens to all kinds of artistic output of course, always has ! Go back to 1939 and The Wizard of Oz not being the timeless classic it was to become. But these days, there's just so dang much out there that it's plain harder to keep track. I've recently been catching more flicks now that I have Verizon Fios , and I've taken to checking them on Rotten Tomatoes, often amazed at the "hit/splat" ratios. Something just made me think of "Sith" and I was pleased to see it had a 79% approval there. Even more amazing ?, episodes 1 & 2 both "score" over 60% as well ! I say yay |
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Post by Krista on Jul 27, 2008 22:22:50 GMT -3
I always get the oddest assortment of reactions when people find out I've never seen a Star Wars movie in my life.
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Post by Queen Shadowrama on Jul 28, 2008 3:14:21 GMT -3
Oh well I can see how - HUH?  ?!!!!  |
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Post by Big Stoopid on Jul 28, 2008 4:52:22 GMT -3
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Jul 29, 2008 12:05:37 GMT -3
I always get the oddest assortment of reactions when people find out I've never seen a Star Wars movie in my life. is the only Star Wars you need, don't fill your mind with that Hollywood crap. |
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Post by crowfan on Jul 29, 2008 21:09:23 GMT -3
oh, yeah. How could i forget Turkish Star Wars??
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Post by Krista on Jul 30, 2008 1:11:14 GMT -3
Yeah, yeah... but really, I swear I don't live in a hole!
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Post by Robyn on Jul 30, 2008 5:04:20 GMT -3
Suuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrree...dork.  But seriously, you've never even seen any of the prequels!? ...Lucky. XD |
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Post by crowfan on Jul 30, 2008 10:32:40 GMT -3
I have to agree that the prequels did suck, mostly because Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman had absolutely zero chemistry. Christensen can't act worth a damn, anyway. Just my opinion, of course.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Jul 30, 2008 11:33:35 GMT -3
I am here to defend Episode III's honor once again!
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Post by Big Stoopid on Jul 30, 2008 16:01:43 GMT -3
I have to agree that the prequels did suck Ahhh, shuddap !! All you'se lazy younglings are simply giving into this whole "how come OUR Star Wars didn't change everything ?" resentment . . or sumthin' all Generation Y and modern with the malaise like dat dere. I ain't sure yet, but I think I've got ahold of sumthin' there. mostly because Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman had absolutely zero chemistry. Huh ?! They're fine ! Especially scenes like "I'd be afraid to tease a senator" Christensen can't act worth a damn, anyway. ( ) The more I see clips from Episodes IV and V, the more I see how Christensen has emulated Hammil's whiny performance moments. Of course, Christensen isn't playing "a young Luke", but still . . . . it's his model. And furthermore . . . . Just my opinion, of course. No . . . it isn't. I checked. Turns out your opinion facilitates back and forth between enamored and horny. But then, you do often confuse your opinions with your moods. |
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Post by Robyn on Jul 31, 2008 10:31:49 GMT -3
Hmm, I see you're living up to your initials, BS! (Ohhh SNAP! Oh no she DID-N'T!) But I kid the prequels. I don't really hate them all that much, it's just so easy to make fun of 'em. Hayden really can't act though. I was dumb enough to go see Jumper in theaters, so I know what I'm talkin' about.  |
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Aug 18, 2008 18:17:06 GMT -3
Who will take up the gauntlet and defend "The Clone Wars" as part of the canon?
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Post by Big Stoopid on Aug 18, 2008 21:12:28 GMT -3
Who will take up the gauntlet and defend "The Clone Wars" as part of the canon? You would appear to have begun both the gauntlet upping and defending, carry on & I'll 2nd the notions ! I know little of the current theatrical, but loved the collected cable chapters which took us right up to Palpatine's "capture". completely acceptable Canon there ! |
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